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Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:  An LA Times correction.

Heard this one on NPR.

Quote:
Cal State Chico — An article in Tuesday's California section about hazing at Cal State Chico mistakenly said that a pledge to a fraternity at nearby Butte Community College died of alcohol poisoning. He did not die but was hospitalized. The article also said Chico has a population of 35,000; according to the city, the population is 71,317. In addition, University President Paul Zingg was quoted saying the school would shut down its Greek system if problems with hazing did not abate. Zingg made his comments to a group of 850 students and others, and his remarks were quoted in the local media. He did not speak with The Times. Also, although the article characterized the school as being well-known for its basketball program, its winning baseball program may be best known outside campus.


Makes you wonder if they even spell Los Angeles in their name correctly.

By the way, we discussed a story about hazing at Chico here. Or it might even be the same incident.

Author:  Ripper [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An LA Times correction.

So what precisely did they get right in the orginal article? anything?

Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:43 pm ]
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Not much, apparently. Reading correction pages is a hoot in general.

Here's a recent NY Times correction about a hypothetical company:
Quote:
An article last Sunday about the popularity of hedge funds misstated the revenue of a hypothetical hedge fund company that has $100 million in assets and produces a one-year return of 10 percent. If the fund's fees entitled it to 1 percent of assets under management and 20 percent of any profit, its revenue would be $3 million, not $11 million.


1%*100M+20%*10%*100M=11M - an easy mistake to make. I'll send the NY Times a calculator :lol:

Author:  A. G. [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An LA Times correction.

Krem wrote:
Heard this one on NPR.

Quote:
Cal State Chico — An article in Tuesday's California section about hazing at Cal State Chico mistakenly said that a pledge to a fraternity at nearby Butte Community College died of alcohol poisoning. He did not die but was hospitalized. The article also said Chico has a population of 35,000; according to the city, the population is 71,317. In addition, University President Paul Zingg was quoted saying the school would shut down its Greek system if problems with hazing did not abate. Zingg made his comments to a group of 850 students and others, and his remarks were quoted in the local media. He did not speak with The Times. Also, although the article characterized the school as being well-known for its basketball program, its winning baseball program may be best known outside campus.


Makes you wonder if they even spell Los Angeles in their name correctly.

By the way, we discussed a story about hazing at Chico here. Or it might even be the same incident.

Don't you get the impression they really wanted to add "And yes we fired the idiot new reporter." They said everything but that.

Author:  dolcevita [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:13 pm ]
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Its too bad. I'm glad the guy didn't die, but hazing and excessive university drinking is a big problem. The misreporting on articles like this shift the focus away from the actual problem, and make it about the reporting. The original sucked, but being hospitalized for excessive drinking isn't exactly a beauty either. I still think this is something universities should take seriously. I held way too many heads over toilets in college to say that if the news covers it wrong, it must not be an issue.


Frankly, there should be more dance parties, that would help a ton :P

Author:  Beeblebrox [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:18 pm ]
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They need to take a cue from the right wing media like Fox News and simply never bother to correct, clarify, or apologize for anything ever.

Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:07 pm ]
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dolcevita wrote:
Its too bad. I'm glad the guy didn't die, but hazing and excessive university drinking is a big problem. The misreporting on articles like this shift the focus away from the actual problem, and make it about the reporting. The original sucked, but being hospitalized for excessive drinking isn't exactly a beauty either. I still think this is something universities should take seriously. I held way too many heads over toilets in college to say that if the news covers it wrong, it must not be an issue.


Frankly, there should be more dance parties, that would help a ton :P

Dolce, as I pointed out in my original post, we here at KJ DID discuss the incident (or at least something that was very close to it)./

Author:  dolcevita [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:10 pm ]
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Krem wrote:
Dolce, as I pointed out in my original post, we here at KJ DID discuss the incident (or at least something that was very close to it)./


Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you. What, you've been hittin the bottle that early on a sunday hmmm? :wink:

I was just saying, it seems that not just in this case, but every case where reporting like this has happened, people seem to forget the topic at hand. In this case, college frats and drinking. now where'd my beer go?

Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:21 pm ]
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dolcevita wrote:
Krem wrote:
Dolce, as I pointed out in my original post, we here at KJ DID discuss the incident (or at least something that was very close to it)./


Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you. What, you've been hittin the bottle that early on a sunday hmmm? :wink:

I was just saying, it seems that not just in this case, but every case where reporting like this has happened, people seem to forget the topic at hand. In this case, college frats and drinking. now where'd my beer go?


It was stolen, just like my license plate was in New York City last night. :-P

Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:24 pm ]
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Beeblebrox wrote:
They need to take a cue from the right wing media like Fox News and simply never bother to correct, clarify, or apologize for anything ever.


I just don't get it. If you hate Fox News so much, why do you watch it?

Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An LA Times correction.

Archie Gates wrote:
Krem wrote:
Heard this one on NPR.

Quote:
Cal State Chico — An article in Tuesday's California section about hazing at Cal State Chico mistakenly said that a pledge to a fraternity at nearby Butte Community College died of alcohol poisoning. He did not die but was hospitalized. The article also said Chico has a population of 35,000; according to the city, the population is 71,317. In addition, University President Paul Zingg was quoted saying the school would shut down its Greek system if problems with hazing did not abate. Zingg made his comments to a group of 850 students and others, and his remarks were quoted in the local media. He did not speak with The Times. Also, although the article characterized the school as being well-known for its basketball program, its winning baseball program may be best known outside campus.


Makes you wonder if they even spell Los Angeles in their name correctly.

By the way, we discussed a story about hazing at Chico here. Or it might even be the same incident.

Don't you get the impression they really wanted to add "And yes we fired the idiot new reporter." They said everything but that.


:lol:

Author:  Beeblebrox [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:31 pm ]
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Krem wrote:
I just don't get it. If you hate Fox News so much, why do you watch it?


Oh, that's right. I forgot who started this thread. You should have made it clear at the beginning that criticism of the media is okay as long as we don't criticize the right-wing media. Or was that implied?

Author:  Groucho [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:36 pm ]
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Krem wrote:
Beeblebrox wrote:
They need to take a cue from the right wing media like Fox News and simply never bother to correct, clarify, or apologize for anything ever.


I just don't get it. If you hate Fox News so much, why do you watch it?

I note that is not a defense of Fox News' policy of never apologizing for its mistakes.

Author:  Beeblebrox [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:54 pm ]
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Mike Ventrella wrote:
Krem wrote:
Beeblebrox wrote:
They need to take a cue from the right wing media like Fox News and simply never bother to correct, clarify, or apologize for anything ever.


I just don't get it. If you hate Fox News so much, why do you watch it?

I note that is not a defense of Fox News' policy of never apologizing for its mistakes.


Btw, Mike, if you notice my other thread, you've been officially nominated* for a Nobel Prize.





*based of Fox News Channel journalistic standards for claiming official nomination as a credential.

Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 pm ]
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Beeblebrox wrote:
Krem wrote:
I just don't get it. If you hate Fox News so much, why do you watch it?


Oh, that's right. I forgot who started this thread. You should have made it clear at the beginning that criticism of the media is okay as long as we don't criticize the right-wing media. Or was that implied?

The Wall Street Journal (the only piece of "right-wing press" that I read on a regular basis) has a corrections page. But kudos for politicizing a topic that had nothing to do with politics.

Author:  Anonymous [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:49 pm ]
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Mike Ventrella wrote:
Krem wrote:
Beeblebrox wrote:
They need to take a cue from the right wing media like Fox News and simply never bother to correct, clarify, or apologize for anything ever.


I just don't get it. If you hate Fox News so much, why do you watch it?

I note that is not a defense of Fox News' policy of never apologizing for its mistakes.

Just a hunch - could it be that it's a news network and not a newspaper? The rules are different in different media types. Not to say that they shouldn't be making corrections, but I don't think any other news netowrk does it.

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