Jeff's contract ends in 2-4 months and he's said he's not going to re-sign, according to PWInsider. That could explain the two straight losses to Matt. If he loses at Backlash, I think that might be it for him unless they go for some sort of "loser leaves WWE" match at Judgment Day or Extreme Rules (what a great PPV name, eh?).
Also, Bobby Lashley debuted at TNA Lockdown last night (and Mick Foley won the TNA World Championship ). Should be interesting to see where they head with him. I was never a fan of him in WWE, but if he's improved I'm willing to give him a chance. Taz is looking to debut there very soon as well - they did a bit last night with Samoa Joe talking to someone behind a curtain, all while wearing the signature black towel on his head. He was supposed to debut last night as well but apparently there was some no-compete from his WWE contract which prevented that.
I do hope he's just angling for a contract with some time off, rather than leaving altogether. I assume his current contract came before his big break last year.
EDIT: So I tried finding the story on PWInsider. I guess their real news stories cost money? Goody. I think I'll pass.
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This Sunday's match between the Hardys is going to be very telling of Jeff's future. The match is essentially designed so he can't lose. He's so determined to beat Matt, why would he say "I Quit"? He wouldn't. A few fluke wins for Matt are justifiable. But if Jeff loses this, I'd say he's close to done.
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Alright wrestling fans(what few there are) we have 3 NEW WWE CHAMPIONS from last nights Followup PPV known as BACKLASH.. So without further ado, here are the results(and you'll love them):
1) HHH, Shane McMahon, Batista vs LEGACY For The WWE Heavyweight Championship
The Winner: and NEW WWE Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton
Apparently, were due for a Batista Heel turn.. Stay Tuned
2) Cena vs EDGE For The World Heavyweight Championship in a LAST MAN STANDING Match
The Winner: And NEW World Heavyweight Champion EDGE
The BIG SHOW Came out and chokeslammed Cena through a Flood light or spotlight causing it to explode and Cena being counted down and out with EDGE being the LAST MAN STANDING and NEW Champion..
3) Santino Marella vs Khali(which wasn't a match but a chance for Khali to kiss "Santina"
The Winner: Who cares, but if you must know, Marella walked ut victorious after duping Beth Phoenix
4) Jack Swagger vs Christian For The ECW Championship
The Winner: And NEW ECW Champion, Christian(Like you knew this wasn't going to happen.. If Christian would've lost this high profile match yet AGAIN, He'd be better off headng back to TNA)
5) Ricky Steamboat vs Chris Jericho
The Winner: Jericho after Steamboat tapped out to the Walls of Jericho
6) Hardy vs Hardy In A "I'm Tired Of This Storyline" Match
The Winner: The Crowd for watching an actual fight breaking out in the upper part of the Arena with a Security Guard being thrown down a flight of stairs and so much that no one hardly watched Hardy's match except when Jeff made Matt cry like a bitch for their Mommy and Daddy and say "I QUIT"
Overall, it sounds like all this should've went down at WM 25, What WM 25 Should've been ans wasn't.. I especially enjoyed HHH losing the Belt to orton, but really thought a Stephanie McMahon turning on her husband was the better scenario.. My ideas for the WWE simply are better and they suck for not using my ideas.. Imagine the future storylines you could've had with HHH's wife turning on him costing him the belt and siding with the man that RKO's her and kissed her on the lips while HHH was handcuffed to the ropes???
I'm also surprised that CENA actually lost the belt on a high profile PPV which is rare??? Even if EDGE is the Champion(and better at it) the fact BIG SHOW Slammed him through a floodlight has to be seen to believe.. Apparently, they were also heavily booing Cena to..
It was like the Wrestling Gods (JBL?! Was that you?!) decided to give me a night of awesome winners. Jeff Hardy beat Matt Hardy, Christian won the ECW Title, Orton won the WWE Title, Jericho won, and Edge won the World Title, his 9th (!!!!) world championship. And they seemed to throw in the Khali/Santino thing at the right time, cause I didn't really mind it by then.
The only downside was a terribly misplaced Punk/Kane match. But that was to be expected the moment it was announced.
Oh, and Matt Hardy cannot catch a break... or, he can, just not the one he wants: he broke his hand during the match last night. But I don't see them keeping him off TV. He'll stay afloat, maybe spend a week or two cutting promos, then go into a feud where he won't have to wrestle until a PPV. That is, of course, if they have any plans for him on RAW.
I called a potential Batista turn, but not the way I had envisioned it. I especially thought it might happen after Orton's "pep talk" to Batista beforehand. But yeah, the seeds have been planted.
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So, Jeff just became the No. 1 Contender in a Fatal 4-Way against Rey, Jericho and Kane. And he did win on Sunday. Maybe he signed a new contract? I'm doubtful he'll win the World Title at Judgment Day, but if you want to diminish someone if they're leaving, wouldn't you keep them out of a main-event position, even if they end up putting over someone else? Then again, he is the top babyface currently working (Taker's still out, I guess). Not many options.
Just wishful thinking. It would suck if, after this last year, he left.
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So, Jeff just became the No. 1 Contender in a Fatal 4-Way against Rey, Jericho and Kane. And he did win on Sunday. Maybe he signed a new contract? I'm doubtful he'll win the World Title at Judgment Day, but if you want to diminish someone if they're leaving, wouldn't you keep them out of a main-event position, even if they end up putting over someone else? Then again, he is the top babyface currently working (Taker's still out, I guess). Not many options.
Just wishful thinking. It would suck if, after this last year, he left.
Taker's around.. He just wrestled last week on WWE Superstars on WGN against Matt Hardy.. Now HBK must be taking an extended vacation or something..
Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:10 am
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I think pwmania said they were wrong about Jeff's contract situation. Or they settled on something because there's no way WWE would be pushing him this hard if he was leaving.
I think pwmania said they were wrong about Jeff's contract situation. Or they settled on something because there's no way WWE would be pushing him this hard if he was leaving.
I didn't think so. If Vince had to, he would do everything he could to push someone else against Edge. It's not like Jeff is the last resort for a title match at Judgment Day.
Anyway, for fear of exceeding my weekly limit on talking about Jeff, I'll switch to someone else. I think it's pretty funny that just when you think they have exhausted everything on him, they come up with something else for Santino.
Equally funny? That "Santina" used to be this guy in OVW:
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I find it a chore to watch RAW now. I didn't actually watch it yet last night, but I've read the results. It's all the same: Batista and Shane, Legacy, John Cena/Big Show, Triple H coming back soon, a few lesser guys trying to make things work but will always be shuffled aside so the big guys can shine.
RAW is crowded. Smackdown has plenty of room to breathe, with Edge, Jeff, Jericho, Punk, Umaga, Rey, etc.
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I find it a chore to watch RAW now. I didn't actually watch it yet last night, but I've read the results. It's all the same: Batista and Shane, Legacy, John Cena/Big Show, Triple H coming back soon, a few lesser guys trying to make things work but will always be shuffled aside so the big guys can shine.
RAW is crowded. Smackdown has plenty of room to breathe, with Edge, Jeff, Jericho, Punk, Umaga, Rey, etc.
Your right.. Absoultely right.. RAW is too crowded and it does feel like the same thing every week now with Legacy vs The McMahons, but every time I see Batista apologizing to Shane for screwing up the match causing Shane to face 3 wrestlers, I can't help but to think he's on the verge of turing heel and that's what RAW needs right now is a new direction in this story..
SMACKDOWN on the other hand is great and I especially enjoyed seeing heel vs heel in the mic work between Jericho and Edge at the opening of the show.. Rarely do we see heel vs heel on any of these shows..
There was talk before the draft on the wrestling sites that Vince would be redirecting his attention to RAW. You know what? Let him. I'll be much happier to watch Smackdown now. Orton's great, but I can't sit through two hours of the same show every week just to see him. Not to mention it's only a matter of time with Triple H, Batista and John Cena on the same show that he'll lose the title again. I'm not sure two hours is big enough for so many egos.
I just feel bad for MVP, Matt Hardy and anyone else who thought a RAW draft would mean something. How can it with all the big guys on one show? Thank god Edge and Jeff stayed put, with Jericho and Punk coming over. Now if only we could get Christian to Smackdown...
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Something I failed to comment on which I thought was funny in retrospect:
I like how Matt and Jeff set up the money shot at the end of their Backlash match, with Matt's hands FULLY EXPOSED, and neither of them thought it might be dangerous to have a 200 pound man jump off a ladder full force onto someone else's upright hands.
Jeff pinned Jericho to keep him out of the Judgment Day main-event (had Jericho won, it would've been Triple Threat). I'd venture a guess that unless Vince is insane, Jeff's contract issues are all but sorted out.
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I like how one wrestling site is reporting that Jeff hasn't signed a new deal, and WWE is just "throwing him a bone" (their words) with a few wins. Coming out on top with a very high-profile feud (with Matt), beating Kane, Rey and Jericho to become No. 1 Contender, pinning Jericho in a singles match and wrestling in the Judgment Day main-event against Edge for the World Title is a bit more than "a bone." It kind of goes completely against Vince's way of thinking.
But whatever. I could be wrong.
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Heard he got hurt again. Shame, he was one of my favorite new guys and really nice when I got to meet him.
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Sat May 30, 2009 12:51 pm
STEVE ROGERS
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Mister Ecks wrote:
WWE released Mr. Kennedy.
Kennedy came out on RAW sporting the Kevin Nash Goat-tee and trying to look like Austin and virtually, you could hear crickets.. Not only that, but I've officially come to terms with the fact that RAW is now more of a Variety show than a wrestling show and that's Vince's fault for that.. SMACKDOWN is what RAW should be for being billed as the "Flagship Show" by Vince and it isn't.. Nevertheless, they had a 5 on 5 match for their so called Main Event and all of them dressed up in Lakers uniforms over this dumb booking flaw between the WWE and the NBA.. The whole show seemed like they were asleep and barely garnered a reaction, even when Cena was out it was dead.. After the match, Kennedy looked like he hurt his wrist after being RKO'd by Orton and was clutching his wrist after the post match hoo-rah.. The guy's simply injury proned and has bad luck, but rest assured, TNA is always the last savior for dying and old wrestlers to go in looking for a job after Vince let's you go... Problem is is that TNA is beyond awful with how small their shows are and how dead the crowd is as well.. Can't believe TNA has lasted this long..
I read that Kennedy wasn't injured badly enough to miss time, but nearly re-injured Orton's shoulder in the match. I guess injuring Orton's shoulder in the first place by throwing him over the top rope onto his back, mid-RKO, is fine, but almost injuring Orton is punishable by job termination.
I'm sure it's more to do with Kennedy's own almost injury. They can't continue to employ someone who spends two weeks in the ring, two years out of the ring.
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Also, I find it amusing that people think Triple H will return as a heel and feud with Batista. Inevitably, that would lead to Triple H teaming up with Legacy for a match, and that isn't happening. It would make no sense unless Triple H was also going to turn on the McMahon family. You can't be a half-heel.
That makes as much sense as publicly mocking the owner of the Denver Nuggets and holding a 5-on-5 match whereas the babyfaces represent the Lakers and the heels represent the Nuggets. WWE would never do something so silly.
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Also, I find it amusing that people think Triple H will return as a heel and feud with Batista. Inevitably, that would lead to Triple H teaming up with Legacy for a match, and that isn't happening. It would make no sense unless Triple H was also going to turn on the McMahon family. You can't be a half-heel.
That makes as much sense as publicly mocking the owner of the Denver Nuggets and holding a 5-on-5 match whereas the babyfaces represent the Lakers and the heels represent the Nuggets. WWE would never do something so silly.
Why on earth would HHH return as a heel and for what purpose beyond being kicked in the head last time we saw him?? They should've had Stephanie turn on the McMahon family and side with LEGACY.. Now THAT would've made more sense, but once again, the writers for the WWE blow, EXCEPT for the Edge/Jericho teamup on SMACKDOWN.. Having these 2 paired up was brilliant.. Either way, tonight is once again Monday Night RAW and I have no idea what to expect..
I didn't watch RAW yet, but I see they dug up the old man for match that wasn't a match but really was a match. Just let him wrestle already. He obviously wants to be like every other veteran to retire and then un-retire and re-retire, countless times, so let him do it already. This debate between wrestling fans about whether the retirement should stick is pointless if the man in question so desperately wants to wrestle.
I really never got behind one side or the other on this "Should Ric Flair wrestle again?" debate. Never actually gave it much thought because, foolish me, I actually like to see some focus on the current talent. How is it I still watch WWE with that mentality? It's not like Vince took away TV time from others last week to call out the Denver Nuggets owner. But why won't they let Flair wrestle elsewhere? I don't care if he wrestles until he's senile (... well, more senile), but don't take away from someone else in the WWE, and don't add to an already overbloated storyline (Triple H/Orton/Cody/Ted/Batista/Shane/Vince/Steph extravaganza).
I'm also not sure what Flair expects Vince to do with him if he comes back. Unless he does a one-off match, he's not going to be featured prominently for long. Once Vince has had his fill (if he hasn't already), Flair will be a glorified Hacksaw Jim Duggan, pimping himself out here and there for old-timer pops. Maybe that's what he wants. Maybe that's what he'll get.
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I didn't watch RAW yet, but I see they dug up the old man for match that wasn't a match but really was a match. Just let him wrestle already. He obviously wants to be like every other veteran to retire and then un-retire and re-retire, countless times, so let him do it already. This debate between wrestling fans about whether the retirement should stick is pointless if the man in question so desperately wants to wrestle.
I really never got behind one side or the other on this "Should Ric Flair wrestle again?" debate. Never actually gave it much thought because, foolish me, I actually like to see some focus on the current talent. How is it I still watch WWE with that mentality? It's not like Vince took away TV time from others last week to call out the Denver Nuggets owner. But why won't they let Flair wrestle elsewhere? I don't care if he wrestles until he's senile (... well, more senile), but don't take away from someone else in the WWE, and don't add to an already overbloated storyline (Triple H/Orton/Cody/Ted/Batista/Shane/Vince/Steph extravaganza).
I'm also not sure what Flair expects Vince to do with him if he comes back. Unless he does a one-off match, he's not going to be featured prominently for long. Once Vince has had his fill (if he hasn't already), Flair will be a glorified Hacksaw Jim Duggan, pimping himself out here and there for old-timer pops. Maybe that's what he wants. Maybe that's what he'll get.
What kills me is that Flair thinks he can beat Orton as though it really matters and every time Batista and Flair get together, even if it's in the locker room type of interview between the 2 of them, I keep seeing Batista turn on him which would be great for a heel turn for Batista.. Watching Flair wrestle again really does take away from his retirement match and treats it as a joke.. I can't believe Flair is that bored to where he feels the need to wrestle..
I get the argument from most fans that, hey, Flair is a bigger veteran than most of the other guys who un-retired, and his retirement should mean something. But more than anything, the man is 60.
And I get that he wants to go out there for the fans again, or go out there for himself (most likely the latter). But my argument stands that he's never going to make it even as a half-time performer, or once in a blue moon. He's at the stage in his career where all he can do is take a bump, spill some blood and look like an old man who's been hit by a fucking truck. I would hate to be the man to reveal this little secret to him, but he will essentially be Mick Foley if he comes back. No one wants to see him wrestle in a legit match anymore. He's destined for a street fight like on RAW. That's it. If Batista turns on him? They'll have a street fight or a steel cage at Summerslam, where Flair will look like he's ready for the boneyard afterwards.
I'm not sure what's more laughable: TV time devoted to Vince vs. Stan Kroenke, or TV time devoted to Ric Flair's obsession and desire to be Ric Flair in his 30s again. I hate to say it, but one man is trying to get good ratings and publicity, and the other is looking to take face time from younger, more-deserving talent. Even more unfortunate is that those can really be interchangable between Vince and Flair. But hey, that's WWE, and that's the show I've been watching for 18 of my 22 years.
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Also, Kennedy posted a video on his Facebook/MySpace/not-sure-where-it-was where he moved his hands around in a comedic manner to prove he's not injured at all.
I'm reading he not only pissed off Orton, but a few other big names backstage (probably Triple H, and other Trips "Yes Men") and on top of Vince's ordeal with Denver, this pushed Vince to fire him. So, wrong place, wrong time for Kennedy. I hope TNA doesn't waste him, but I don't have especially high hopes.
He has to have the worst luck in wrestling. Take a look at a few of his misadventures:
-Won MITB, was about to win the World Heavyweight Championship, only to be injured and lose it to Edge, who ended up winning the World Title the following Tuesday night. Then found out the injury wasn't that serious.
-Has been injured countless times, notably during pushes, specially during the "Vince has another son?!!?" plotline which would've been infinitely superior to Hornswoggle.
-Had a fairly uneventful DVD movie (guess that's not his fault).
-Was the last wrestler Eddie Guerrero faced on TV before his death (not his fault either, just thought it was amusing at best).
-Almost re-injured upon return; almost re-injured Randy Orton. Released afterwards.
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